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Today in worldbuilding Fluff gets to ponder immigration law. Given this takes place in a country on a portal reached techofantasy world I could make up just about any answer. But, given:
*character arrived in country while high school aged because father's employer asked them to transfer there
*neither parent nor child became citizens of the other country
*its been a few years since the move and the son just started attending a local college

What happens if the father gets upset enough to disown the son and kicks him out of the house?

So I get to figure out whether the son was on the father's visa (some Googling suggests that's how it would work for people heading to the US) or required to have a separate one, what the country's view is on the disowning&kicking out, and what the implications of that are.

Whee. Worldbuilding is fun. Especially when you don't have to worry about someone pointing to a source you never saw that shows you got something wrong.

Date: 2017-04-24 11:57 pm (UTC)
tuftears: Lynx Wynx (Wynx)
From: [personal profile] tuftears
If your country is:

* Lawful Good: the son is required to apply for a student visa but permitted to stay until the completion of the application process, as long as there is paperwork. The police are very kind and the school arranges for temporary employment so the son can work off the balance of his debts. As long as he follows the rules, everything will work out.

* Lawful Neutral: the son is regretfully deported and required to apply externally for the student visa. The college is compelled to suspend the student's tuition and residency and refund the balance of these, and allow the son to return if approved to complete the student year. He spends a year in administrative limbo, waiting for the letter that will never come.

* Lawful Evil: the father is arrested and fined for smuggling an illegal immigrant into the country. The son is sentenced to a work camp for being in the country illegally. Both are allowed to use copious amounts of money or other exchange of goods or service to mitigate their sentences, or else will serve the country well in the military.

* Neutral Good: a friendly judge hears the case out and attempts counseling/mediating the dissension between father and son. On the failure of this process, the judge issues a temporary visa to allow the son to complete his education and expedites the process for applying for a work visa on the son's part for post-college employment.

* True Neutral: Nobody notices anything until someone (maybe the father) reports the son in. There is a huge drama-fest and eventually the son is deported and the father is shamed and people start a GoFundMe to help the son get back into the country. The media covers the triumphant return of the son on a student visa and his friends sing the national anthem as they welcome him at the gate.

* Neutral Evil: The son is deported. His student visa is declined. He is forced to eke out a living back home in an uneducated position, if he is without resources, or perhaps he buys fake papers and sneaks back into the country if he was really set on living there. The world doesn't hate him but it isn't inclined to do him any favors either. His father becomes powerful and wealthy, since there is no justice.

* Chaotic Good: the son's friends/teachers/someone wise and kind take the son in, seeing in him a glimpse of hidden potentials. They arrange for a student visa. He is very well treated. Every day he passes some homeless bums and is reminded how fortunate he is not to be one of those who didn't get noticed and treated kindly. Perhaps he will pass along the kindness, realizing but for the grace of $DEITY, that could have been him. Perhaps he will not. It's all the luck of the draw.

* Chaotic Neutral: the son's friends/teachers/someone wise and kind take the son in, seeing in him a glimpse of hidden potentials. They promptly involve him in crime and seedy underworld brutality. He receives fake papers so that he can pass in front of authorities, but his employers assure him that his continued residence depends on their goodwill, so he had better continue doing a good job.

* Chaotic Evil: the only laws are those of strength and power, so the father is fine assuming he works for a powerful patron, but the son is unceremoniously kicked out of school and forced into slavery. The narrative being what it is, the son inevitably finds his way into a position of employment where he can become strong and powerful himself, and seek revenge on his father. And then he will see who laughs last.

Date: 2017-04-25 03:55 am (UTC)
archangelbeth: An anthropomorphic feline face, with feathered wing ears, and glasses, in shades of gray. (Default)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
Another thing to consider: is the son at the age of majority and a legal adult? If not, then he may be on the father's "green card" no matter what either of them say. If he is, then he may well have been required to get his own student visa when he turned 18 [insert age of majority here] -- or the paperwork for that is being processed. In which case he may have to intercept the mail to get his visa.

Or perhaps he can simply say that his visa is being held by his father, who has kicked him out of the house. Then you decide if the local cops are going to be likely to go Lean On Dad to produce the visa for the kid. (If the kid is a Model Minority type, and the local precinct isn't too rotten, Having A Chat isn't out of the question?) Figuring out if he can get a replacement might be a social services thing. There may be some kind of social assistance at the college that he could talk to for this -- they could send letters about "deliver your son's legal documents or be fined" or something.

Again, as Tufty said, it does depend on how you're setting up local bureaucracy.

Date: 2017-04-26 04:18 am (UTC)
archangelbeth: An anthropomorphic feline face, with feathered wing ears, and glasses, in shades of gray. (Default)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
Well, there's 18 which... is legally full adult, but may or may not be seen as such, depending, in our universe -- but yeah, sounds like he'd need his own visa, and depending on age-of-majority, maybe ought to remember this himself?


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